So yesterday, JAM gets off the bus and he has a bloody lip and a stain of blood on his shirt! I freak and I asked him what happened. He said that a big kid pulled his arm for no reason, which made him fall and hit his lip on another kid's knee that was in the aisle. You can tell that he was holding back tears and I asked him what's wrong. He started tearing up and said he doesn't know why that big kid did that. My heart broke, but I was furious! Honestly, I wanted to hunt this kid down and kick his you know what! BUT clearly that's not the right thing to do so we talked about it. I asked him if the kid was picking on him or if it was an accident. JAM said that it wasn't an accident. We went on and on about it and I was trying to understand the situation more. Since JAM was real little we've always talked about bullying: What to do if he sees it and what to do if he's a victim. We've also always told him that we are his safe zone. He can always come to us if it happens. He won't get in trouble if he tells us and we won't cause a scene and embarrass him in front of his peers (since that seems to be his biggest concern).
My son is such a social butterfly. He makes friends real easily and he always sees the good in people. He loves making new friends, but as parents we try to explain to him the difference between bullies, friends, and people who just try to use you. Sometimes if I see it happening I'll pull him aside and explain it to him to show what real friends shouldn't do, but in the end he always just says "They are my friends, and I just want to play". I still try to make him aware of it from time to time, but I figured he'll just have to learn like I did as a kid. Plus, what do you really expect from a 6 year old? After this incident happened it made me sad when he couldn't understand why this big kid was mean to him when he didn't do anything. I could see it in his eyes. I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what to do. We simply talked it out until we both felt better. We talked some more about bullying and friends. I even showed his a few YouTube videos to show him a different perspective.
Mahal said that it easily could have been an accident that the boy was just trying to play around with JAM and didn't mean for him to get hurt. He said to wait it out to see if it happens again before reporting it to the school. I was still hesitant. I felt like I should report it even if it was an accident so they had it on record just in case there was another incident with this child again. After talking to fellow moms I decided to write a letter to the principal explaining what happened. Accident or not, my baby boy bled. Hopefully this is the first and last time I'll have to deal with something like this, but something tells me this is just one of many bloody battles I may face especially with the way kids are these days. *sigh*
How would you handle the situation if you were me?
First, I am sorry, second, I would go to the school, since your son was physically hurt I think they need to know. I have no clue if they can or will do anything but at least you will have it reported.
ReplyDeleteReport it to the school AND to the Bus ppl. Same thing happened with my son a few yrs ago, but he got punched in the face while on the bus. They didn't do anything about it (he said, she said) ugh but They did keep an out out for him
ReplyDeleteok. it's so hard to not fight your kids battles for them. When i see kids taking advantage of him and I try to tell him or explain whats happening he always says that they're his friends and they were just playing. no harm no foul kind of thing. I just didn't know if i was being irrational and being psycho mom to bring up a one time incident to the school.
ReplyDeleteFile the report. Write it down in letters to both principal and school bus company... They have to take it as offical documentation and cannot ignore it.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter was surrounded on teh playground.. 6 boys pushed her to the ground and kicked her repeatedly.. They tried to say it was rough housing gone too far. (it was stopped by another student distracting them so she could escape to the bathrooms) They tried not punishing any kids. Instead told my daughter to avoid them. I wrote a letter and it was handled.. This was after weeks of me talking to staff and trying to get an appointment with principal to stop the verbal abuse before it escalated.. I regret letting them handle it..
I was asked by the principal (off the record.. she actually said that) to please not write any more letters.. (i wrote one) Our buses have cameras.. they know what happened. Don't let them BS you.
Wow that's shady to not ask you to write any more letters
DeleteMy kids are young and I have not experienced anything like this yet but I would like to think that there is a difference between doing it for them and doing your part to help protect them. I don't believe you are trying to fix your sons problems by reporting it. It seems like you got your (pardon me) shit together and you are handling it appropriately. The open communication with your son seems most important to me. Maybe ask him what he wants done and if he says nothing say you can respect his wishes this time but if it happens again it must be reported. There is a very very skinny line between kids will be kids or boys will be boys and bullying. A one time occurrence usually isn't bullying. Good luck. You are doing awesome.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly what his dad said Tiffany
DeleteI am very sorry that your son was injured. Not sure if he is being bullied or if this was an isolated incident but it's not okay. May I ask what school he goes to? Although it is true that some of the busses have cameras, unfortunately, not all of them do. The busses are over crowded and the bus drivers have not been trained to manage behavioral problems. Therefore, the busses are often a breeding ground for problems. It's both sad and frustrating! When you fill out an online report, the report will go to the AP/principal and the counselor of the school. You can either fill out the online report or directly report to the principal. Let the principal or AP know that you understand that due to confidentiality reasons, he/she cannot share the other student's punishment with you but you do expect for him to conduct a complete investigation (normally both students involved and nearby students are interviewed) and for some consequence to be implemented. Typically, this will be a couple day suspension from the bus. I would also question the bus driver or the school why a bus citation wasn't issued. If this would have been the case, then administration would have been automatically notified. Three bus citations are an automatic removal from the bus for the rest of the year. Has this student picked on your child in the past? What was going on prior to your son being hurt?
ReplyDeleteI am only 28 and I don't remember kids being so mean. Boy oh boy have times changed. Do what feels right to you! Don't second guess yourself.
ReplyDeleteI would send a letter to the principal first. Give them a chance to deal with it first. hopefully you do not need to go further. Follow the chain of command after that. http://ccsd.net/departments/community-government-relations/public-concerns
ReplyDeleteUse this form. You can even hand deliver the letter to the principal. I did.
The bus driver should have written it up and reported it. Students can get bus citations and be banned from riding the bus if they have repeated offenses. Also, if the school won't help you go to the area person who is the principals boss. I can't think of the title right now. You have every right to be outraged!
ReplyDeleteYes I would for SURE let the bus supervisor know so it is reported. The kid that punched my son did eventually get kicked off for repeat offenses. (his bus did NOT have a camera)
ReplyDeleteAw man how do you not flip out on the kid who did that ?
ReplyDeleteI couldn't find him jk jk
DeleteI would be in the principals office the next day, on the phone with the bus company and filling out that report online you mentioned. I would also be calling that kids mom and making sure she knew what her kid did. That is beyond wrong. I was bullied as a child and once it got physical it just gets worse. Its like the magic line between words and beatings. You have every right to protect your baby. He's not like 15 and can handle things, he 6!!! It is insane that 6 year olds know how to be so cruel!!! Just show what kids are being taught and show about treating people these days. Ohh and I am truly sorry that happened to your son.
ReplyDeleteOh man, that's scary! My son is kinder this year, in march he will be 6. I also have talked to him about being bullied at school. And this year alone, he has two incidents with a kid in his class, who he think is a "friend". I tried to explain to him that he probably isn't you friend if he tackles you to the ground and wrestle with you during recess (and usually he says he got hurt). I don't know what it is but he didn't tell me these things were happening at school, only then his teacher talked to me about the issue. He used to sit by the kid now no longer, does and seems to be doing fine. But the biggest problem my son had, was talking to the teacher. He was so afraid that he will be made fun of for telling on the other kid. But I would definitely go to the school and let them know what happened.
ReplyDeleteMarinel that's exactly my situation so I felt so bad. I try to teach my son all these things ever since he started preschool at 2-3 yrs. old and we've never had any issues.
DeleteMy son is 11 and has had a couple questionable incidents over the years where I thought he may have been bullied. First thing is to make sure your son feels secure that he can openly come to you about anything, ask him questions, educate your son about bullying, help build his self confidence and in that he will be able to find his voice to stand up for himself no matter what life brings (sports and martial arts classes are great for this). Have a chat with the principal but don't let them pacify you with their bs talk, let them know they need to have a anti-bullying program at their school or you will go to CCSD administrators. My sons school has a program called Be Kind and it helps to encourage positive behavior towards their peers. Here's more info about it if you wanna refer your sons school to it- http://joshstevensfoundation.org/
ReplyDeleteSitting back and doing nothing is the worst thing you can do. Good luck.
Trisha now that you mentioned it, I do see the be kind t-shirts around school so maybe they do have that in place there.
DeleteEvery school will claim to have a Zero Tolerance policy on bullying. In truth they ignore more often than not. Claim it is a he said she said situation. (basically calling your child a liar)
ReplyDeleteWatching my 5 yr old be tripped on the playground, shoved to the ground, having my 10 yr old followed around as a group of girls yelled ugly and stupid at her. All after the incident with my oldest. It was the final straw for me with CCSD. We now virtual school through K-12 using Nevada Virtual Academy. I wish I could go back in time and save my oldest from her horrible experiences. It changed her.. she lost a lot of her confidence. I agree with Trisha. Sitting back and doing nothing is the worst thing you can do. You are your child's advocate. No one will care more about your child's well being than you do.
Bullying does NOT need to be a pattern of behavior to be "bullying". I thought you might find it helpful as well, particularly in your dealings with the school.....Bullying is the use of force or coercion to abuse or intimidate others. The behavior can be habitual and involve an imbalance of social or physical power. It can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of race, religion, gender, sexuality, or ability.[2][3] If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a "target".Bullying can be defined in many different ways. The UK currently has no legal definition of bullying,[4] while some U.S. states have laws against it.[5] Bullying consists of three basic types of abuse – emotional, verbal, and physical. It typically involves subtle methods of coercion such as intimidation.Bullying ranges from simple one-on-one bullying to more complex bullying in which the bully may have one or more "lieutenants" who may seem to be willing to assist the primary bully in his or her bullying activities. Bullying in school and the workplace is also referred to as peer abuse.[6] Robert W. Fuller has analyzed bullying in the context of rankism.Bullying can occur in any context in which human beings interact with each other. This includes school, church, family, the workplace, home, and neighborhoods.
ReplyDeleteI do want to thank all you mamas for being so awesome and supportive. this parenting thing is craziness so it's good to have such a great group of friends (whom most i've never physically met lol...hmm, what does that say about some of my actual "friends" lol). Anyways, I felt so confused because some of the stories you ladies shared with me were clear indications of bullying or physical abuse. What happened to my son could easily have been an accident or an incident of being picked on, but I just wasnt sure.
DeleteEven though things seemed to be kosher I still went ahead and wrote a letter to the principal so that they were aware of the incident that took place JUST in case something were to happen again. I can't believe after hearing all of your stories that the common consensus was that the schools were more afraid of backlash or bad things said about the school than the actual safety of the kids. Brushing issues like this under the rug like they want especially when your kids and getting punched or kicked or mobbed is beyond words. What happened to the days where school staff treated our kids and one of their own. To keep parents in the loop. At my son's preschool they would write an incident report for ANYTHING that happened to my son and I'd have to sign off that I got a copy of it. They'd take it a step further and call if he hit his head or something they were seriously concerned about. If anything, at the very least, if my son gets hurt even a little bit. A cut or scrap that needed to be tended to by staff that should be the first thing that should be mentioned when I come and pick up my kid. I didn't like that the bus driver at least didnt reassure me that he handled it or even spoke of it. My son's stop is his only route and I'm always there front and center to pick up my son. I remember getting bullied on the bus and my bus driver ALWAYS looked out for my sister and I once he noticed it. If something intense ever happened he'd mention it to my mom just in case she wanted to take it up with the school. quick 2 seconds while we got off the bus is all it took to mention it to my mom. ugh. idk. my son loves riding the school bus. he thinks it's cool and fun. i just dont like it so idk what to do. riding the bus is like a right of passage. it comes with the experience of going to school but this all just sucks!
ReplyDeleteIMO my kids learned so many bad things on the bus. I couldn't believe the stories they would tell me ugh
Deletedon't let it go, bullying needs to be dealt with. My friend's 12yo boy committed suicide because of bullying. Very, very sad.
ReplyDeleteBullying is just a terrible thing. From my experiences there are many kids who seem to lack an empathy for others in this generation. There are also many who have no idea how to take responsibility for their actions. They are very quick to blame anyone and everyone. I have a poster in my room that says bullying is never okay. It shows a pack of dogs staring down a single dog and the kids often ask. Which one is doing the bullying? I think the increase in the extremes of the types of bullying are a sad indication of how we treat each other as a society. Most of these poor behaviors are learned from watching adults interact and behave.
ReplyDeleteI think you handled it well, the same as I likely would have done and I will add that I'm happy my kids don't have to ride a bus to school. It does appear a lot can happen en route when the driver has to well, drive.
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